Julia
Mayes, contributing editor for KNOCK, interviews
Kim Euell, playwright of The Diva Daughters DuPree,
playing in Seattle through October, 2006.
Kim Euell’s play, The Diva Daughters DuPree, plays in Seattle
at the Langston Hughes Performing Arts Center through October, 2006.
Winner of the Theodore Ward playwriting competition, the play is the
story of three African-American sisters who reunite and find themselves
engaging in difficult, but sometimes humorous, conversations about
not only their differences, but also their common bonds. Choices made
by the sisters in lifestyle, jobs, and especially husbands are the
backdrop of this story in which layers of race, class, age, and gender
emerge.
Euell served as director of New Play Development at the Tony Award-winning
Hartford Stage Company where she produced and developed several projects
for the main stage. She began her career in theater as a production
coordinator and has worked as a dramaturge at major play development
programs including the Sundance Theater Lab, the Eugene O’Neill
Playwrights Conference, and the Bay Area Playwrights Festival. An August
Wilson Fellow, Euell was also a Macarthur Scholar at the University
of Minnesota in 2004.
Euell talks to KNOCK about her extensive
experience in theater and her inspiration for her latest play and explains
why Diva Daughters DuPree might challenge opinions about roles and
views in America.
Julia Mayes: What excites you about Diva Daughters
DuPree? How did
you come up with this family and their story?
Kim Euell: Basically, it’s the story about three women, sisters,
who grew up in an upper middle-class, African-American family, but
they grew up isolated
from the African-American community. Their parents moved them to
a wealthy, almost overwhelmingly white suburb, and it’s set
in Chestnut Hill, which is a suburb of Philadelphia, near where I
grew up.
I wanted to look at that whole phenomenon of people who grow up in
that situation. One of the things that’s unique about the sisters
is that there is a pretty good spread in age. The three sisters are
Billy, Sarah and Abbey. They’ve been named by their father,
after his favorite jazz songstresses.
Each one has had a very different experience, given where the family
fortunes were at the time each one was born. For example, the youngest
has only known this neighborhood and has only known privilege, because
by the time she was born, the parents were well-established in their
careers, and financially. Whereas the eldest was born at a much different
time, so she’s had a much different experience.
JM: These women have one thing in common with a lot of women, especially
black women, even in Seattle. They seem to live with a sense of duality,
where they are part of multiple communities; they work in the white
community, and they live in and out of the black community. How did
that aspect of the play develop?
KE: Part of it has to do with my own observations about African-American
people and where we are. One of the things that inspired me to take
up playwriting in the first place was the fact that I rarely saw
people that I knew on stage. While we had some wonderful breakthroughs
with August Wilson and the generations that he represents and depicts,
and with Suzan-Lori Parks, when I would go to the theater, I would
look around and I would not see the people that I knew on stage.
That’s
one of the things that motivated me to start writing. In a way, I
think of this play as a portrait, and in painting this portrait of
these three sisters I was also seeking to paint a portrait of my
generation.
JM: How do the sisters in The Diva Daughters DuPree reflect your generation?
KE: Each of them identifies herself in a different way. One of the
sisters identifies herself more as a bi-sexual female. Another one
of the sisters identifies herself more strongly as an African-American.
The third sister identifies herself based on class. Then there’s
the issue of the choices they have made as a result of their upbringing.
The youngest sister and the eldest sister have both married men outside
of the culture. That aspect of the play was inspired by the fact
that one day I looked around and noticed that of my four closest African-American
female friends, three of them had, in fact, married outside of the
culture. I also noticed that this caused a shift in the conversations
that took place, particularly at the dinner table—our primary
mode of socializing. Suddenly, there were things that we couldn’t
talk about, or we talked about things in different ways. That was
one of the things I was really motivated to explore in this play—how
that conversation shifts and how do we censor ourselves? What would
happen if one day everybody stopped self-censoring? What kinds of
things might be blurted out?
JM: African-American audiences are often very aware of class and
generation gaps. How does your play touch on what we’ve experienced,
and then reach deeper?
KE: Another thing that compelled me to write it was the fact that
I did not feel that I was seeing lot of plays written that specifically
spoke to the African-American community about some of our concerns
that don’t get addressed. One of the things that has happened
is the shift away from African-American theaters supporting and developing
black playwrights. From what I can see, a lot of African-American
theaters now are looking to regional theaters or mainstream theaters
to inform their programming. The mainstream theaters, of course, when
they select a play by a writer of color, it’s going to be a writer
of color, who basically is writing for a mainstream, white audience—about
people of color. It’s a lot different from when a writer is
writing specifically for an audience of color, to be filtered through
a different lens, different sensibilities. Just like those conversations
at the dinner table that get censored, the plays, the topics, the
themes are filtered.
JM: I know that you have worked as a consultant for the Seattle Arts
Commission, so you’re familiar with the Seattle Arts scene.
KE: You’re going way back (laughs). That was over ten years
ago.
JM: Well how did The Diva Daughters DuPree end up being produced in
Seattle, at the Langston Hughes Center?
KE: I was seeking dramaturgical input from different people and one
of the people I gave the script to was a director named Julie Eber
who’s based in Los Angeles. She liked the play and passed it
on to a Seattle-based dramaturge named Maime Hunt. She in turn, passed
it on to director Jacqueline Moscou. I was actually out of the country
doing a workshop when I got an e-mail from her saying she wanted
to produce it. So that’s how it happened. I really had no knowledge
of the fact that the play was on this route (laughs).
JM: Your work has taken you from San Francisco where several of your
plays were produced at the Lorraine Hansbury Theater, and as far as
Kenya, where you instructed workshops for playwrights. Can you tell
us about your experiences around the world and how they have led to
what you are doing in theatre today?
KE: When I first got out of college, I went to work for a presenter
of touring Broadway and off-Broadway plays and musicals, a man named
Don Thompson. I was in charge of productions arrangements, so I was
the person that had to baby-sit productions when they were in the
theater. And we would block-book. Sometimes they’d book a show
and we’d
present it in five different cities in northern California. Sometimes
we’d have a show running for eight or ten, or sometimes twelve
weeks. That meant that I would get to see these shows over and over.
That’s when I first started to develop a grasp of dramatic
structure and also that’s when I first started to think I’d
really like to write a play and I think I could write a good play.
After that, I got a chance to work on the national tour of A
Soldiers Play, which was the Pulitzer prize-winning play that was produced
by the Negro Ensemble Company. That was a big revelation because
I thought, ‘Oh,
I can do it, and I can do it black.’ That play was written
by Charles Fuller, who, in terms of American playwrights, is one
of the master craftsmen. His work is really under-produced, but I
was very interested because he was telling stories that had not been
told on the American stage. He also was someone that came out of
the black arts movement, so his work had a certain breath in terms
of its commitment to social content and its commitment to being work
that empowered African-American communities and addressed important
issues. So, I would say that he actually became a really big inspiration
for me and having the opportunity to see his play over and over definitely
was educational, as well.
JM: The play originally debuted in 2002 in Detroit. When did you start
writing The Diva Daughters DuPree? How long does it usually take you
to write a play?
KE: I started the play in the late 90’s. My plays usually have
a long gestation period because of the way I write. I really spend
a lot of time getting to know my characters.
JM: How do you develop your characters and your story?
KE: It’s almost as though the story already exists, but initially
I can only catch it in glimpses. I might hear certain voices. Then,
I give myself creative time and I start writing things down. Another
thing that I do is make collages when I’m gestating a play.
JM: What kind of collages?
KE: Visual collages. I go through and find visual images, photos,
things from magazines, tarot cards, whatever. Anything that in some
way seems connected to the characters or the world of the play. I
put them up on my wall and by the time the wall is full of images,
I’m hearing
the character voices pretty clearly and I start to write down snatches
of dialogue in a journal. Then once the journal is full, I can sit
down and start to craft it into a play.
Diva Daughters was the first play I had written in a while. I had
this idea that I was going to write a play about a history professor
named Sarah, but the first character that showed up was Billy. At
first, I thought she was Sarah, but then I realized, ‘no, this
is somebody else.’ Then Sarah showed up, then Abbey was the last
one to show up, which is kind of the order they arrive in the play
on stage (laughs).
JM: What do you hope audience members will take away from the experience
of seeing Diva Daughters?
KE: It’s not so much that I want them to take a specific thing
away from the play. I’m hoping they will really be engaged
and entertained while the play is on stage, but then afterwards,
they will really want to talk about it. I hope the audience will
really be motivated to discuss it. To be honest, in a lot of ways,
my plays are like the appetizer and the main event is the discussion
that happens afterwards.
JM: Can you tell us something about what you are focusing on currently
in your writing?
KE: I’m actually working on a cycle of plays that explore relationships
between Africans and Americans, African-Americans and also Anglo-Americans.
There’s a theme of forgiveness that runs through all of these
plays. So far, I’ve completed one and I’ve got two more
in the works. In each of the plays, there is a situation in which
there has been exploitation and abuse. The way that the situation
is ultimately resolved is that somebody is
called upon to forgive.
JM: That sounds so different from Diva Daughters. But, when do these
plays take place?
KE: Well, this probably sounds abstract, but I can tell you two of
the plays have something to do with South Africa. The one that is
already completed actually takes place out of time. It takes place
in Limbo. The setting in my play is a weigh-station for souls that
are in-between lives. It’s based on actual historical characters
who meet up. One of the characters is stuck in Limbo, because of her
inability to forgive the past. Although she doesn’t see herself
as stuck, she sees herself there as a matter of choice.
I’m also working on a companion piece to Diva
Daughters about
a group of four friends, former roommates, who met at an elite college
and formed a very deep bond although they came from very different
backgrounds. Now they’re all successful women, and their friendship
is threatened when three of them discover that the fourth has a South
African woman who is working for her and living at her home. They
find out that she is cruelly exploiting this woman and it creates
a crisis for their relationship.
JM: Where can we find more of your work?
KE: Diva Daughters is being published in an anthology by Northwestern
University Press called Best Black Plays and it should be
out within the year. Otherwise just Google me and see what comes up
(laughs).
Photos from the play by Luke Walker
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